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1 month 2 weeks ago #17172 by SmittyBRS
Looks like MSFS is here to stay and it appears that they've finally figured out how to avoid the two step forward, three step back approach to upgrades and patches. Since I'm basically a low and slow type pilot, I'm happy with a DC3, DH2, C208, PC12, PC6, WACO or Stearman and at least one good amphibian to get me going.

Here's my question.. where is the best place to purchase the package and are there any major no no's to avoid on installation? I'm not interested in the XBOX version and really don't need complicated tube liners to figure out.Think I'll' skip the Reno AirRace package too. Used to go to the real ones out there and got dizzy just watching 'em.

Any advice or guidance from some of our fearless and now experienced MSFS veterans will be greatly appreciated.

TX

Smitty
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1 month 2 weeks ago - 1 month 2 weeks ago #17173 by jer029
Hey Smitty,

Great thread, as it's been a while since we looked at migrating to MSFS from other simulators.  I wasn't aware that there were other places to purchase the sim other than the Microsoft website.  At the time of purchase I bought the deluxe package with the most aircraft available.  At the time there were no amphibious or rotor aircraft available.  I'm not sure what is currently available there but are likely payware addons.

Most importantly you will likely need to upgrade your computer that your simulator(s) are running on.  I recommend that you keep your old simulator because there are some things that MSFS cannot do yet like our Adventure Packs and Mike's Bomber Group flights. Also, there are times when you may want to fly only to find a mandatory update for MSFS waiting for you that may take several hours to finish.  Currently they don't give you the option to update later and you are forced to update before flying.  I've been met by this on several Wed. night group flights because they generally push the updates out on Tuesday sometime.  I was able to join the flight on my P3D while the update was downloading on MSFS.

Back to the upgrade of the system, skimping on the system specs will likely result in a disappointing performance and you may get frustrated enough to upgrade later.  Some of the upgrades might require a new motherboard and case so you might end up with a whole new system but for some higher end components you can shift to the new system.

My upgraded system is as follows:

* AMD X570 ATX gaming motherboard with PCIe 4.0, 16 power stages , OptiMem III, on-board Wi-Fi 6 (802.11ax), 2.5 Gbps    LAN, USB 3.2, SATA, M.2 and Aura Sync RGB lighting.

* AMD Ryzen 9 5950X Vermeer 3.4GHz 16-Core AM4 Boxed Processor

* Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3090 AORUS Master Overclocked Triple-Fan 24GB GDDR6X PCIe 4.0 Graphics Card

* 64GB RAM

* Samsung 870 EVO 2TB SSD 3-bit MLC V-NAND SATA III 6Gb/s 2.5" Internal Solid State Drive 

* SAMSUNG 970EVO+NVME 1TB  M.2 SSD

* Seagate BarraCuda 4TB 5400RPM SATA III 6Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

* EVGA SuperNOVA G Plus 1300 Watt 80 Plus Gold ATX Fully Modular Power Supply

* Corsair H150i Pro XT 360mm RGB Water Cooling Kit

* Lian Li Lancool II Mesh Tempered Glass eATX Full Tower Computer Case - Performance Black

I'm quite happy with the performance, and it's a bit more robust than might be necessary, but I'm running 3 monitors 
with my flight deck.

I've enjoyed the large number of aircraft you have in your hangar, and the loss of most of your aircraft will be the most significant impact you will notice with MSFS.  The wonderfully realistic scenery will be the most enjoyable part of the new simulator I'm thinking.

That's my thoughts to help get the discussion going.

Good luck.

John Rogers
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1 month 2 weeks ago - 1 month 2 weeks ago #17174 by SmittyBRS
Good Morning,

TX for the input. My old system is toast, the power surges and lightening finally fried the CPU and screwed up the power supply. The new system is nearly identical to yours. I've got the Intel Core i9 and 5.2 GHZ with 8 cores. RAM is 32 GB Corsair DDRA SDRAM. Got an 10GB 3080 GeoForce video card and a 850W power Supply. Storage drives are virtually the same.

Yes, I'd really miss many planes in my hanger collection and much of the ORBX scenery. The X-Plane12 announcement has really gotten my attention too. Looks like a significant upgrade especially with their own WX engine and improvements in cloud rendering, graphical improvements and their suburb aircraft models.

This would really be confusing if Lockheed decided to tempt us with version 6 too!! Who knows, might wind up with all three of them.

Again, TX for the input.

Smitty

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1 month 2 weeks ago #17175 by Oswald
Just to put my two cents into it: Flightgear is quite as well approaching fotorealistic scenery. Well, as FG has it, the advances are slow ... waiting for the decisive update 2020.4 which enables Fotoscenery. Many of my FG colleagues already run preliminary versions of 2020.4 with really nice scenery images, I'm less on the experimental side and stick to the current stable version. I'll report when things advance.

Oswald

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1 month 2 weeks ago #17176 by SmittyBRS
Agree with you totally on the desire to use the tried and true.Spent an awful lot of time as a Beta tester for various developers and came to the conclusion that even early Public Beta releases can create some pretty interesting opportunities....many not the good kind.

Didn't realize the Flightgear is an open source offering. Just checked their site and it looks pretty interesting.

Thanks for the heads-up.

Smitty

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1 month 2 weeks ago #17178 by jer029
Yes Oswald, please do share any photos of your photoreal scenery when you test it out.

I'm very pleased to see the updates with MSFS has greatly improved the night lighting for wide angle setups like mine.  I can finally fly at night again as demonstrated by some of my recent pics.  I've also updated with the global shipping addon that really looks great at night with all the ships, and even sailboats lit.  

The clouds and other weather has improved significantly over the updates too.

As Bill mentioned on the group flight, there is still some annoying popping in of scenery, but I can live with that for now if it improves the overall performance of the sim without stutters.
 

John Rogers
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