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Start ::  Special Ops Division ::  Bush Operations Notices ::  Whidbey Island postal tour complete
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Whidbey Island postal tour complete

Anonymous Posted: 22.09.2018, 01:44
Unregistered User How do we report in on completion of a tour?

bilson Posted: 22.09.2018, 12:19


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Mark, Now that Yoland is back he does the Tours. Give him a little time to catch up.

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Yoland Posted: 10.10.2018, 20:43


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Hello Mark
There is no hall of fame or award record for the postal flights. Your only pride is to deliver the mail in time in all seasons and weather cool
If you are looking for awards and medals, go to the SPA President's Message page where you will find a link to the awards section.

Yoland Grosjean from Switzerland - SPA 348
- CEO St Paul Airlines VA (ceo@stpaulairlines.com)
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- SPA Fleet manager
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Anonymous Posted: 10.10.2018, 23:23
Unregistered User St. Paul is missing an opportunity to encourage flights. Putting up awards, maintaing stats on monthly basis for #flights, hours, distance, Landing rates etc are great ways to get people involved.
Has SPA looked at some of the FREE ways to get this done easily.

check out Virtual Airline Manager 
Yoland Posted: 12.10.2018, 18:40


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Hello Mark,
The management, the organisation, the making up of new challenges, taking care of the forum, maintaining the web site and many other tasks need a lot of work and the SPA work force is quite limited.
Our webmaster is kept very busy and he is looking for a fellow SPA pilot "computer savy" as an assistant since a very long time. The Miami hub needs a manager and nobody seems interested by this position.
To make a long story short, the management team is already very busy and has to face first the priority tasks to keep the VA running ! Thus remember that we are a totally non profit organisation and nobody is paid to do the work.
Further developments could be implemented in the future but awards system is not my present priority. We are grown up adults and collecting virtual stars and awards should not be our main motivation  to play with our flight simulators.
By the way, we alrady have an awards-hall of fame operational system bu only for our most challenging flights missions. See AWARDS - Hall of fame

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jer029 Posted: 12.10.2018, 21:32


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Actually a number of the things you've mentioned have already been addressed.  Have you looked around the site a bit?  The awards have been an area of renovation over the past year, but there is still some consolidation I'd like to do.

Let me give you a summary and locations for you to save you some hunting around the site:

The primary Awards Page has been completely renovated and is located from the main menu ->Members->Awards.  Click on the name of the pilot to see their awards.  I might suggest you look at Larry Chew's name to see what an active pilot who has flown many hours (and years) has generated there.  This awards page includes automated awards for (or information regarding):

-Rank (and if they are a Manager)
-Years of Service
-Hours flown
-Adventure Pack Completion Awards
-Economic Completion Awards

Additionally, there are manually assigned awards available that Hub Managers can create and award.  These will also show up on this awards page.  Currently only the Distinguished Service Award is in this category, and was carried over from the old awards page.  Otherwise no hub manager has utilized this option since its recent inception, but as Yoland indicated - everyone is busy doing many things, including real-world activities.

Under Main Menu->Members->Activity you will find, also automated, the 10 most active pilots for the month based on hours flown, including graphs of other data.

Under Main Menu->Hub Awards you will find recognition lists based on Hub Flights flown for Most Hours, Most flights (sorties), and most active new pilot.  These are based on hub flights flown (flights that are listed in the flight schedule in the Pilots Office that are scheduled for that hub (MSP or MIA), not related to the hub assignment of the pilot.

I intend to eventually move the Hub Awards area to the Activity Area, as I think consolidating that with what's already there makes sense and will put related things together.

Then there are the various awards that Yoland handles under his Special Ops area, and the optional Adventure Pack Icons that can be added to pilot's forum signature and automatically updated if they choose that option (as you can see by my forum signature and other pilots on the forum).

So...I think we've made a reasonable effort in the Awards category, and I think our new Awards Page (Main Menu->Members->Awards) is one of the better looking awards pages for Virtual Airlines - of course, I'm biased because I put a lot of effort into creating it.

Lastly, as for Virtual Airlines Manager (and PHPVMS), these management systems are nice for new airlines, but Saint Paul Airlines has been around long before such management systems were available.  While we could adopt either of these systems, we would be locked into the "Look and Feel" of those management systems and lose the look and feel of the current SPA, making us just another VA that looks like all the others, but with a different name attached to the front.  We would also lose a number of the options and services we offer our pilots, and would either have to figure out how to configure their ACARS to do what SPAACARS does (such as the Econ Mode) or figure out how to get SPAACARS to work with the new management system.  Also, I don't think our new FlightGear pilots would like this, as I don't thing either management system accommodates FG pilots at all, or at least to the degree we offer here at SPA.

edited by: jer029, Oct 12, 2018 - 10:02 PM

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