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jer029 Posted: 26.04.2018, 21:48

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 I've adjusted the sorting of the listing to show the completed flights in descending order so those with all 21 flights are listed first in order of highest average revenue.  Congrats to the 3 pilots who have completed the first Econ challenge, and to Motown Xpress who is the current leader for most profitable regional airline of the Group-1 Juneau flights. 
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ctnlocal Posted: 02.05.2018, 09:41

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Is the challenge now over, or must we still continue?
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wschneid Posted: 03.05.2018, 11:03



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Ready for the next set of Econ flights.

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Westcoast Posted: 03.05.2018, 11:20

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I'm in Portugal.  There won't be more Econ flights until after I return, probably in about 3 weeks.  We're working on several enhancements to the model.

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jer029 Posted: 03.05.2018, 16:32

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Alf,

The challenge never ends here at SPA lol2.  You can certainly finish the Group 1 flights and other groups will follow as they are developed.  Note:  I still have to add the 'awards' for completion and other things related to the Econ Challenge for the Group 1 flights.  Just note that, as other pilots complete the challenge, this might change the final results for that group, as you only get 'one bite of the apple', ie.  you can't repeat flights of a group for a better result.  The first flight of each official flight number in the Econ2018 flight schedule is the final record for each pilot for that flight.  Pilots can re-fly the flight numbers, but those results will only show in the practice page and not in the Official Econ2018 page.  Of course, you'll always get hourly credits for any of those flights and they will appear in your personal Pilot's Log.

Lastly - something to work at for pilots waiting for the group 2 flights;  The next group of flights will be for larger aircraft (somewhere in the 33,000-200,000 range).  We won't know more until Mike gets back to work on this project, but the Econ display for the practice page has been updated with the latest cost/revenue formula, so those of you flying generally using the econ mode setting may wish to practice with some of your plane models within this range to see what kind of profit margins you generate with different aircraft.  The updated Econ flight data should then be available  on the Econ Practice Page as well as immediately and temporarily on the "Daily Arrivals" area on the main SPA page.  Keep good notes, because then you can refer to them when selecting the best plane in your hangar for the next Econ flights when they are available.



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Westcoast Posted: 03.05.2018, 17:09

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Currently the Econ 2018 model is not appropriate for heavy or very light aircraft.  It works satisfactorily for the midrange A/C of the sort appropriate for the first group of Juneau Econ flights. I'm working on a solution to both problems which will require modification to both the cost and revenue algorithms.  I'm sorry this is taking some time.  So don't take your current Econ results for heavy aircraft as indicative of what we will have when this work is completed.

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jpc12785 Posted: 03.05.2018, 23:43



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I second Bill. Ready for more. That was fun. Thanks for putting it together.
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jer029 Posted: 04.05.2018, 07:09

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Yikes...I must have jumped the gun on that haeh.  Pilots may still wish to check their fuel burn rates for larger aircraft in preparation for the next challenge, especially if using real world weather.  This is what's taking me so long to get going on the Econ flights.  I need to iron out my burn rates and calculations for head/tail wind speeds along the flight path.  Note to pilots:  In addition to your own test flights, and information gleaned from the Internet, there's a link on our Fleet page that shows average fuel burn rates for our flights here at SPA for many of the common types of aircraft.  While some of these numbers might be off a bit due to some incorrectly entered data on manual pirep entries, the large number of flights made should bring the average burn rates close to what you should expect, and offers a good starting place for your testing.

John

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wschneid Posted: 12.05.2018, 11:57



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I just completed a flight with 300 pax covering 4000 NM. My passeger revenue was $837.00. I wish i could fly that cheap. What up?

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jer029 Posted: 12.05.2018, 13:38

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Bill,

Mike is still working on the cost/revenue structure for larger aircraft.  The next weight class is expected to be 33,000-200,000 range, and even that is not ready yet according to Mike, so certainly your 777-200 at 545,000 is way over what even the weight-class currently under development is expected to allow for.

Progress continues on this and other projects when we have the time.  Mike is not able to work on this for a couple weeks, and with summer finally arriving here in Minnesota, I've been busy enjoying the nice weather and engaging in outdoor activities that were not possible during the past 6 months.  

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wschneid Posted: 12.05.2018, 18:17



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My bad. I was using an older version of SPAACRS.

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bill721 Posted: 13.05.2018, 16:07

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What aircraft are P3dv4 users flying for greater than 6 passengers?

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jer029 Posted: 14.05.2018, 19:46

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It's been a while since I reviewed my limited p3d hangar, but I like the Carenado b1900d as one option.  Especially if you're referring to Econ mode flights.  Otherwise - I'm watching what others have flown and what kind of revenue generation they've managed for the various aircraft models.  Of course, I'll be limited to what's currently available for P3d-v4, but I haven't been checking the latest updates of the many developers to see what is now transferrable to p3d.

I miss so many of my favorite planes and addons with FSX that I can't have yet I'm p3d, I'm tempted to switch back again, but with my 3-screen setup, it only works with fsx in NVidia surround so I hate having to reconfigure my video display when I want to fly 3-screen with fsx. 

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